User talk:Banrai/Archive1

Archive from Aug2005 fo APR2006

I've changed the page so it actually tells who I am, and not just some random things. --Banrai

Hi there, Banrai - welcome to WikiFur! Let me know on my user talk page if you need any help not already provided. :-) --GreenReaper^(talk) 04:16, 29 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Altaedeus

Please do not blank the contents of talk pages as it can make it hard to follow previous conversations on the subject. --Nidonocu - talk 04:42, 9 Sep 2005 (UTC)

Just a note

I won't make any changes to your page since it appears that you are in the middle of editing it, however please remember that Wikifur is not for personal attacks. While you may have some legitimate personal grievances with someone, WikiFur is not the place to air those grievances. Please consider editing any allegations down to things which can be documented through links (for example, a link to a post in the Furry Cruise community). Things which boil down to "She said, he said" should probably be omitted unless they can be adequately document. Thanks!----DuncanDaHusky^(talk) 13:07, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

I don't see how stating facts that many people can back up is a personal attack. I can only see one small bit that *might* be offensive, however I believ that the way I have chosen to word things (such as 'suspects' instead of 'OMGLOL SHE DID IT') make it very much NOT a personal attack, but a statement of feelings. Banrai

Requesting page protection

How do I go about requesting my page to be locked so that only myself and administrators can edit it? --Banrai

You just did. I'm at work right now so I can't really look that closely to ensure it's appropriate, but I will later this evening.

Be aware that "your page" is User:Banrai. Banrai is "the page about you". As such it is expected to be reasonably complete, and I do find it odd that there is no mention or reference to the actions mentioned in a certain LiveJournal entry that comes up when searching for your name. What's past is past, and it is important not to dwell on it, but it does deserve recording so that people understand how things ended up as they are today (and so we don't get complaints on the talk page from people who think things are being hidden). I will try and see about that tonight as well. I'm not a concerned party other than ensuring the accuracy of the article, and I don't particularly want to raise any drama about it, so fear not - it'll be brief.

Oh, and just something I noticed glancing over the page - you only need to link to other articles the first time a linkable name comes up, not every time. It's assumed that people will already have clicked on the link if they want to go to it. :-) --GreenReaper^(talk) 15:04, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

I added a small blurb about... that. But feel free to edit it as you see fit. It's a very personal preferance that the article itself not actually be linked, since it IS over and done, but.. yeah, you're the mod. I also went back in and fixed the massive-linking, so it looks a little cleaner now. ;3 --Banrai

I've not linked it. Instead, I spent a while reading various sources, then tried to give a summary of your actions, the context behind them - part of which was already evident in previous sections - and the response from others, without turning it into a duplicate of that post (or another Sibe). I think it says all that needs to be said about that without taking up too much of the article. If people really want to know more, I'm sure they can find out for themselves - but I suspect for most it is enough that they will not feel the need to do so.

As for your request, the article seems a good one as it stands. I will post a notice on the talk page, and unless there is significant dissent from the WikiFur community I will enable the page protection within a day or so. If at a later point you decide that you no longer want the page protected then any admin can help you remove it at request. --GreenReaper^(talk) 06:34, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for reverting

Thanks for reverting the vandalism on Augenti. I've now blocked the IP responsible. -- Sine 03:14, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

No worries. ;3 It was my page, and I just happened to be looking at it, as it happened. --Banrai

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Please be careful writing about other people

We have a policy against personal attacks. Whenever you type something like "rears her ugly head", you are likely to be breaking it. At the very least, it is not conductive to a neutral tone in the article, which is something we strive for on contentious topics. When editing, think about whether a paper encyclopedia or other reference book would ever say what you are writing. If not, there's a chance that it is inappropriate for WikiFur.

In general, please also be a little more careful when writing about people in what may be percived as a negative manner. If you have a problem with a person that has led to interactions with them on LiveJournal, try to keep them there, rather than editing the wiki articles about them in a manner that is likely to encourage them to get into a war with you here as well. I do not want WikiFur to become yet another venue for battles between personalities - the resulting arguments waste other editors' time and make WikiFur a less-nice place to be. There are thousands of other aritcles you could be editing, after all - why not write about something you enjoy? :-) --GreenReaper^(talk) 08:59, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Creation of "fake" fictional characters for satire

While the creation of fictional characters is a part of furry fandom, and the description of personal characters is welcome on WikiFur, the use of "fake" fictional characters backed by non-existent persons to satirize another member of the fandom is not. Please keep such fictional writing to your own site. Thank you. :-) --GreenReaper^(talk) 05:30, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Satire or not, it's one of my characters and I think I would really appreciate it if you'd have your editors please leave her article alone, and I'm simply listing her just like I have listed every other character on wikifur. If there's a problem with that, then target all my characters, and not just her. Hell, also target the other hundreds of people that probably have a page for each of their characters to provide more information on them. --Banrai

It's not an "or not" matter. WikiFur isn't your personal playspace for the creation or continuance of drama. We are not interested in participating in what amounts to a personal attack against another member of the fandom. Your fiction was written with the deliberate intent to pass it off as reality for the amusement of yourself and your friends, and that is a serious misuse of WikiFur.

Put simply, it is not acceptable to create sockpuppets to insert lies into WikiFur, nor to use it as a tool to hurt others for your own benefit. Such actions are damaging to our reputation and credibility, and will result in removal of editing privileges if repeated. --GreenReaper^(talk) 08:45, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Creation of "fake" fictional characters for misleading purposes

Yes, it's a character you got involved with (Anjel had the initial idea, as these logs we were provide with show,) but this is not a gallery, and this was not posted as a showcase piece, but as a fake entry about a non-existant person ("Jessika") and her fursona, and a side swipe for good measure to Otterland. As stated before, misinformation is not very appropriate for Wikifur (I'm sure you would not like if your entry was defaced for the Lulz.)

Had we not been informed about it, the entry would have been a lie at best, a fake, nasty stereotype certain lesbian women, furry or not, are accused off at worst (...femmenazi,...hmm, Classy...).

Provided log and image follows:

Log

From: Anjel 2007-01-06 09:55 pm (UTC)

• I was thinking the other day: We need to take purple otters back. We should make a lesbian Purple Otter with bat wings and ram horns and maker her a raging feminist and radical liberal eco-terrorist who hates Texas

From: _sistersunshine 2007-01-06 10:16 pm (UTC)

• haha oh my god DO IT

From: Loki 2007-01-06 10:56 pm (UTC)

• this can only result in lolz

From: Banrai 2007-01-06 11:29 pm (UTC)

• I AM STEALING UR IDEA © ME NOW

From: Anjel 2007-01-06 11:36 pm (UTC)

• We could call her the dutchess! OMG I would draw you lesbian gift arts

From: _sistersunshine 2007-01-07 12:17 am (UTC)

• the duchess of otter country

From: _sistersunshine 2007-01-07 12:33 am (UTC)

• WAITAMINUTETHOUGH otterland is gay so maybe she should be straight?

From: Banrai 2007-01-07 12:37 am (UTC)

• No, she's a lesbian but HATES fags!

From: _sistersunshine 2007-01-07 12:37 am (UTC)

• that could work!

From: Banrai

• http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Dutchess There we are. :D Feel free to add/edit.

From: _sistersunshine 2007-01-07 01:38 am (UTC)

• oh gawd yessss but isnt it spelled 'Duchess'? Oh well. I LOVE HURR

From: Banrai 2007-01-07 02:38 am (UTC)

• ohshii fixxeddddd

From: Anjel 2007-01-06 11:37 pm (UTC)

• Have her wearing a shirt that says "I like Bush on my women NOT IN MY GOVERNMENT!"

From: Banrai 2007-01-06 11:45 pm (UTC)

• I AM DRAWING THIS RIGHT NOW. SERIOUS FURRY ART.

From: Banrai 2007-01-07 12:41 am (UTC)

• I AM MAKING HER A WIKIFUR PAGE SO SHES A LEGITIMATE FURRY NOW :D PLZ BE TO LOOKING FORWARD TO A REAL BIO FOR HER V. SOON.

From: _sistersunshine 2007-01-07 01:36 am (UTC)

• o murr~ AND TO THINK SHE WAS BORN RIGHT HERE IN MY HUMBLE LIVEJOURNAL

From: angrylittlefox 2007-01-07 02:14 am (UTC)

• She should be asking a judge to please continue speaking

From: _sistersunshine 2007-01-07 02:20 am (UTC)

• oh my god yes

From: Banrai 2007-01-07 02:38 am (UTC)

• YES I LOVE YOU WHO ARE YOU *unf*

From: angrylittlefox 2007-01-07 02:42 am (UTC)

• hahaha :D i'm foxid over on cyd but don't tell anyone *shh*

(Image attached to logs):

"Jessika"

So the prank didn't work. No big deal,... Spirou 05:26, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Good job actually reading what I wrote in the above comment. :) You win at the internets! And what if I had other characters that were 'created out of spite'. A character is a character is a character. You can't be selective on these things, deary. And aren't all characters 'fictional'? Seriously, think about the terminology you're using here. -- banrai

"You win at the internets!"

Yes "LULZ, Shut up Judge, I'm firing my Lazers!..." and other overused memes...

"And what if I had other characters that were 'created out of spite'."

There will no problem if it was in context of what Wikifur is for,..

"A character is a character is a character."

No, when it's used to falsify/mislead an entry, with the addition of using as a means to ridicule another person on the Wiki

"You can't be selective on these things, deary."

Yes, when it's used to falsify/mislead an entry, with the addition of using as a means to ridicule another person on the Wiki

"And aren't all characters 'fictional'? Seriously, think about the terminology you're using here."

"No, she's a lesbian but HATES fags!," "I AM MAKING HER A WIKIFUR PAGE SO SHES A LEGITIMATE FURRY NOW,"... I don't think I'm the one using the wrong terminology here Spirou 18:16, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Inclusion of "Duchess" on your entry page

Including Duchess on your page, stating your co-creation with Anjel and Captain Cowgirl, the intention of why creating this character was (try to incorporate a non-existant fur and her fursona entry as a dig to user Otterland,) and the final outcome is a more appropriate way while regarding this matter Spirou 18:31, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Please take my name off the creation list. I had nothing to do with the creation of this fictional character, and have no idea why my name came up there. Evol 11:21, 15 January 2007

You were listed because you participated in the original discussion which resulted in the character's creation, and from which the significant features of the character were derived. However, looking at your participation it was not aimed at creating the character and did not result in any significant additions, so I've removed your name. --GreenReaper^(talk) 17:31, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Image:Kasan2.JPG

Hello Banrai,

This is in regards to Image:Kasan2.JPG. It has not been tagged with a copyright status. This can be a complicated area, so I can try to help if you need any. The Wikipedia Image use policy may give some background, but it isn't policy here.

Why {{fursona}} was not a usable tag for this image:

The way I see it is that {{fursona}} is sort of a "fair use" claim; a fursona drawing is a like a "logo" for that furry, so a low-resolution graphic of a fursona drawing is the only way to illustrate what the fursona looks like. Pictures of fursuits are not unique in that way; anyone can take a picture of one.

To deal with this image, there are a few choices:

• If you are the copyright holder, release it under a free license, for example:
  • Public domain {{PDImage}}
  • Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike {{Cc-by-sa-2.5}}
  • GFDL {{GFDL}}
• If you are asserting that this image is usable under fair use, add an appropriate fair use tag. A very basic summary is that fair use is used for commentary, criticism and review on the image when no free image could be used instead. Some fair use tags are:
  • Logos: {{logo}}
  • Covers: {{Cover}}
  • Comic panels: {{Comic-panel}}
• If the image is already under a free license, provide information on the license, and tag the image if you can.
• If you would like the image to be deleted, ask any administrator

To see a list of current copyright tags available on WikiFur, see Category:Image copyright tags If the copyright status is not resolved, the image may be deleted.

Unless you have a question for me specifically, I'd prefer responses on the page for the image. --Rat 07:06, 22 February 2007 (UTC)