Talk:ConFurence

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Dixie cups

The article currently refers to 'guests running about in dixie cups'. Uh... what does THAT mean? The mind, she boggles. Clarification or correction necessary. --Tom Howling 22:19, 26 Aug 2005 (UTC)

See http://groups.google.ca/group/alt.fan.furry/msg/1143808507c0919e?hl=en& --Rat 22:33, 26 Aug 2005 (UTC)

I've linked to that message in two places in the main article. More clarification welcome from those who were there -- HOW exactly were the Dixie cups worn? I assume it was covering the penis, but daren't assume. Thanks. --Tom Howling 20:08, 29 Aug 2005 (UTC)

When I wrote that little tidbit about the dixie cup in the highlights of CF8, I did so in a humorous manner and wasn't meant to be taken seriously, thus the changing of wording and adding a link to the article is.. well.. overkill. Best to just remove the thing rather than embellish it, as it was not actually in the programming track of the con. --Crassus 20:06, 30 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Break it up

I'm thinking about breaking the long section in the middle of this article with summaries of the individual conventions into their own separate articles. This would be hugely practical, seeing as other articles are going to frequently talk about events that happened at a particular convention. As it is, this is one of the longest articles in the wiki anyway. --Sebkha^(talk) 2005-08-31T14:02

POV concerns

First, I removed the following section out of the "Controvery" section: People failed to realize that such events were either made instant legend and tall tales for the ages by attention-loving gossipers. Anyone who thinks a pet auction is outlandish never saw the movie Groundhog Day. Nonetheless, the rumor mill was afloat. Crush Yiff Destroy even hosts an article speaking of this very subject in their downright attempt of character assasination of the creators.

It's POV, and I question whether the linked-to piece on Crush Yiff Destroy qualifies as "character assasination" (sic).

I feel that the second and third paragraphs also require lots more in the way of references (and have added in the citation template accordingly), given the accusations that are being made. If I have the time later, I'll Google for some of this stuff and see what I can find. --Douglas Muth 22:01, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Fabrications

There are many lies being spewed in the controversies which don't match to actual records of the events surrounding Confurence. The pet auction was never intended for sexual favors. The "pet" just hung out with the winning bidder. Furry room parties were not that lewd. At least, not the parties Mark hosted. Furries at his parties mainly just played games, watched movies, and shared art. No different from the parties he used to host at the Prancing Skilltaire household. Sometimes drinking was involved. But if any sexual acts occured, it wasn't an officially sanctioned event by the organizers. Also, after years of running conventions, all the money went back into keeping the event running. When Mark passed the torch, Darell asked where the money was, and there wasn't any.

If not outright fabrications, these accusations have no citations, thought, logic, or research. They falter in the face of the facts actually presented, video recordings, first-party resources, and majority anecdotes of the event. These are clearly attempts at assassinating Mark's reputation and Confurence. People who actually attended loved the convention. There were several controversies surrounding Confurence not mentioned, but many are homophobic: Mark kissed his partner in the hotel lobby, and Robert Hill (male) portrayed Hilda the Bambioid (female). But these acts were only controversial among a very small subset of Usenet circles. The other controversies are even more moronic. One e-mail from the mother of a volunteer was sent to James L. Oddo claiming Furries engaged in beastiality and pedophillia, and Oddo faxed a response to Mark claiming a California blue law stopped adult portions of the event from occuring. However, the hotel sold Playboy magazine, and police took no issue with adult Furry works. The only legitimate controversy that actually holds water isn't even mentioned: the art auction wasn't properly taxed. After being investigated, this did get fixed in subsequent events.

What is Wikifur's standard on claiming there's a teapot in space? If anyone can easily make boisterous, exaggerated claims, like a teapot existing in space, it would be physically impossible for anyone else to thoroughly debunk that. --User:Sotalo 3:05, 18 February 2024 (UTC)