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(You are welcome to contribute here by highlighting specific terms that are inaccurate. Threatening physical violence is not acceptable. Ask yourself - has threatening people ever worked?)
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:*Threatening physical violence is '''not acceptable'''. The only result has been to lessen people's regard for your wishes or increase their concern over your presence. Ask yourself - has threatening people who do things you don't like with violence ''ever'' worked? Would you ''ever'' follow through on it? Would ''that'' achieve your goals, or would it just get you arrested? Making such threats is a lose-lose proposition - either people don't take them seriously, or they ''do'' and you get banned from conventions and people warn others about you.
 
:*Threatening physical violence is '''not acceptable'''. The only result has been to lessen people's regard for your wishes or increase their concern over your presence. Ask yourself - has threatening people who do things you don't like with violence ''ever'' worked? Would you ''ever'' follow through on it? Would ''that'' achieve your goals, or would it just get you arrested? Making such threats is a lose-lose proposition - either people don't take them seriously, or they ''do'' and you get banned from conventions and people warn others about you.
 
:For your own sake, learn to ''think before you type'', and treat everything you write on the Internet as if people you care about impressing will read it later - because, chances are, they will. They are not likely to be impressed by insults and threats of violence against others. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]<sup>([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])</sup> 17:55, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
 
:For your own sake, learn to ''think before you type'', and treat everything you write on the Internet as if people you care about impressing will read it later - because, chances are, they will. They are not likely to be impressed by insults and threats of violence against others. --[[User:GreenReaper|GreenReaper]]<sup>([[User talk:GreenReaper|talk]])</sup> 17:55, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
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im in ur talk page lolin at ur ban -'''[[Image:Skunklogo.gif]]<small>([[User:Skunk|U]])([[User_talk:Skunk|T]])([[Special:Contributions/Skunk|C]])'''</small> 17:56, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

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If you have a problem with that information being listed, use the respective talk page for discussing it. Repeated blanking will only get you banned. Spaz Kitty 21:35, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

This user connected to Meadows MUCK as a guest and said the following:

g.Cougar pages, "Who the hell are you and why do you keep putting that fucking Legal Issues fucking bullshit back into Kacey's WikiFur article? I obviously do not want that shit in there because it didn't happen, and yet you keep putting it the fuck back. Stop editing it." to you.
You page-pose, "Mischief is an administrator on WikiFur. It happened, there is documented proof of the restraining order, and I do not appreciate you taking this issue to my MUCK when I told you to use the designated talk page if you had an issue with that being included. You continued to blank, and you have been blocked because of it." to g.Cougar.

Their IP address (which has been banned) was cpe-76-83-17-73.socal.res.rr.com. Spaz Kitty 21:46, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

And more, via AIM: [05:48] MozdocAlicentaur: Why you piece of shit mother fucker. Now you locked the page so that I can't edit it. Remove that slanderous bullshit at once. Spaz Kitty 21:47, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

How the fuck am I supposed to open up a talk with your fucking pathetic ass if you block me?

--Mozdoc

How about answering me? Isn't this supposed to be a live page?

--Mozdoc

Exactly how you are right now. Since you lost the privilege of editing because of your persistent blanking and attitude, you can only reply on your talk page for now. If you have an issue with it being on Kacey's article, state why - preferably in a reasonable tone without the language. ;P Spaz Kitty 21:58, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

How about the mere fact that I DO NOT want the entire damn world knowing about all of the bullshit that's been going on between me and her? I do not want my name attached to anything to do with her or her stupid husband Noriko. That is why. I'm sorry for what I did, but why do I have to have MY NAME both real and fictional put onto a damn Wiki article because of it? You think I want to be known for this? NO NO NO NO NO. That's why I removed it because it happened in the past, its over and done with and its forgotten, and I intend to keep it that way.

--Mozdoc

Slander is a rather severe accusation. In particular, it requires the statements to be untrue, and to have been posted with reckless disregard for the status of their truth. The referencing documents for the restraining order appear to be valid, and so I see no reason for it to be removed.
The mention of subsequent events at Further Confusion 2007 is unreferenced. As you seem to wish to challenge its factual basis, I will gladly ask the Further Confusion staff to confirm or deny whether or not the article is a valid statement of the facts. If they deny them then we will remove them, otherwise we will reference the confirmation in the article.
I find the argument you make about it being "over and done with" unconvincing, because it does not match the statement in the article or your own words elsewhere. Ultimately, if you don't want the world to know you for it, don't continue to do it. Given that it went to the point of you being thrown out of FC 2007, and that by your own statement you deliberately avoided the effect of the restraining order for 2004 and 2005, this may take quite a while. --GreenReaper(talk) 22:21, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

I mother fucking hate you. That's it, Kacey and her fucking husband are going to mother fucking die. I'm sick of this shit happening, and mother fuckers such as you continuing to humiliate and fuck with me life as I'm very well trying to clear my name and I don't want bullshit like this to be open and available to every mother fucking furry fan or fan of Kacey's in the entire fucking world just because I did something wrong five fucking years ago that I'd rather forget.

REMOVE THE GOD DAMN TEXT NOW AND LET THE PAST BE PAST. I'd like to know how you mother fuckers managed to find all of this information out in the first fucking place and why you even thought it deserved being put on here. If those fat ass mother fucking furs want to find out what happened, how about making them get off to the public records section of a library and have them look for this shit themselves in a book?

Get my fucking name, both real and fictional, OUT OF THIS MOTHER FUCKING ARTICLE YOU FAGGOT ASS PIECES OF SHIT.

--Mozdoc

"I'm sorry for what I did" followed shortly by "That's it, Kacey and her fucking husband are going to mother fucking die." Talk about lack of sincerity. Anyways, this is a matter of public history. The individuals Kacey and Noriko made this information at http://www.furbid.ws/images/administaur/restrain.pdf freely available as is their right. As it is a matter of public documentation, it can be freely distributed in a manner they see fit.--Kendricks Redtail 23:55, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Quit making this mother fucking page keep appearing and someone remove that fucking Legal Issues section before I add my own god damn section to dispute it in the article itself. I'm not taking this shit any longer.

--Mozdoc

Request denied. --Douglas Muth 20:41, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Will you quit making all of the text on this page reappear each and every fucking time I erase it to state my point of view? My request is simple. CLEAR MY NAME out of this bullshit and erase it because it has no place in this fucking article. Either that or let me make a section where I can state my point of view on this shit to counteract it. --Mozdoc

Mozdoc had this to say in a page blank. I felt it was worth restoring and addressing: "I personally fail to see why the hell its so important or beneficial to this article that it mentions the fact that me and Kacey are pissed off at one another. This article is about her fucking artwork, not about anything else, so therefore any legal issues she has with me or anybody else for that matter are insignificant and SHOULDN'T matter. Remove it.--Mozdoc"

This page isn't JUST about her artwork. It's a biographical entry about her life. That's the point of WikiFur. It's an encyclopedia of who we are in relationship to the furry fandom. You repeatedly confronted her in scenarios related to the furry fandom, so YOU become relevant to her history related to the furry fandom. If this happened on a non-furry site, we probably wouldn't be so worried about it.--Kendricks Redtail 21:14, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Fine then, how about I do this then and add my own fucking section to HER god damn life and express my views and opinions about what I think about her, her fucking husband, you fucking assholes, and all of the people responsible for putting this lame piece of shit online? Certainly there's nothing against me doing that, because you pieces of shit have already shown no respect for me at all at any point during this "conversation" or lack of, so why should I extend any such respect back to you stupid fucks? I'm going to add my own section once your ban against me has worn off. You'd better leave it up you faggots.

--Mozdoc

As long as it stays and here's the word: FACTUAL, I'm sure we'd have no problem with accepting your edits to her article. However, I already see this as coming a personal attack. Opinions generally aren't welcome here because everybody has a differing opinion about something. And I think we've been MORE than cordial and respectful here in this dialogue, otherwise would we have even let you state your viewpoints in an open forum like this. You need to calm down. I hardly think throwing a cockfit about this is helping. You're just diggng yourself deeper instead of trying to show your own personal good faith regarding this, you're only going to prove your malicious intent.--Kendricks Redtail 21:30, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

How about shutting the fuck up and removing this segment about me and Kacey having some fucking issues? Might I point out that it wasn't HER who was the stupid bitch who sicked the mother fucking courts on my ass, it was her bastard ass fucking "husband" Noriko who did it because Kacey is too much of a chickenshit to do it her own fucking self. My personal good faith in the WikiFur system will be restored when you dipshits remove the bullshit about me once and for all.

--Mozdoc

Which one of you mother fucking cocksucking dickheads was it that decided to be an absolute mother fucking moron and put this ban against me for an entire god damn year instead of a god damn fucking week? You've got some mother fucking nerve you crack head piece of shit. A week was fine enough, why not just extend it to five mother fucking years or the rest of my god damn life if your so pissed the fuck off over me trying to right the wrongs and remove the entire god damn section of Legal Issues? The more and longer you ban me just makes me more pissed the fuck off and more hungry for blood and punching someone in the god damn fucking face. UNBAN ME NOW.

--Mozdoc

I want the page that you cheap mother fucking sacks of shit are making about me to be REMOVED at once because I did not give you the authorization or permission at all to make it without my knowledge.

--Mozdoc

I want my god damn connection unbanned RIGHT NOW so I can erase that mother fucking page you lame ass pieces of shit are posting about me because more than half of that shit is untrue. How about lifting your god damn one year ban against me you stupid faggots and letting me actually contribute instead of all of you writing about MY life for me? How would you feel if I did this to you? UNBAN ME NOW.

--Mozdoc

Hey you pieces of shit. I'm talking to you. Unban me NOW.

--Mozdoc

Haven't you ever heard the phrase, "You catch more flies with honey than vinegar"? What makes you think treating people like this, being rude and vulgar, and completely unhelpful is going to get you anywhere? Have you tried listening to what other people have had to say, and thinking about that before next letting your opinions spew out? --IanKeith 17:44, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
A few things:
  • Defamation is something we take seriously. However, we do not need your permission to write about you, as long as we do so with the good faith belief that what we are writing is the truth. We have as much right to do so as anyone does. We will exercise that right over the wishes of an individual in cases where we, as a collection of members of the fandom, feel it is in the public interest of the fandom as a whole to do so.
  • As a practical matter, if we unblocked you and you kept trying to erase the page, you would just be blocked again and the page would be restored from the history. Since this appears to be your intent, there is not much point in unblocking you.
  • You are welcome to contribute here by highlighting specific terms that are inaccurate, and saying why this is so, or by pointing out things that may have been overlooked when writing articles. We want an accurate article. If, as you say, "more than half of that shit is untrue", then you should be able to find plenty of specific items for correction. (It is my personal belief that what has been stated is substantially true.) However, there is little that you can do to affect the inclusion of facts that are accurate, but detrimental to your reputation. We are not going to avoid writing something just because it makes you look bad.
  • Threatening physical violence is not acceptable. The only result has been to lessen people's regard for your wishes or increase their concern over your presence. Ask yourself - has threatening people who do things you don't like with violence ever worked? Would you ever follow through on it? Would that achieve your goals, or would it just get you arrested? Making such threats is a lose-lose proposition - either people don't take them seriously, or they do and you get banned from conventions and people warn others about you.
For your own sake, learn to think before you type, and treat everything you write on the Internet as if people you care about impressing will read it later - because, chances are, they will. They are not likely to be impressed by insults and threats of violence against others. --GreenReaper(talk) 17:55, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

im in ur talk page lolin at ur ban -Skunklogo.gif(U)(T)(C) 17:56, 2 May 2007 (UTC)